22
Jan

First post I am writing since returning from my holidays. To get back into blogging I need to go back to my “origins”, to the time I remember with nostalgia, when I was discovering indiepop, those early 2000s.

A time where Swedish pop reigned supreme. Lots of great bands and labels. Mostly lo-fi bedroom pop which we found through the peer-to-peer program Soulseek. We made friends, we became fans. It was a good time.

There was a label called Bedroom Records then. I’ve written about some bands on it like Thehelpmeplease, Happy Go Lucky or Agent Simple. These were mainly guitar pop bands, today’s band Back in Judy’s Shack, it was more of an eletronic pop one.

On this label most, if not all, of its releases were CDRs. That was the format of the day. Very limited copies but we still would get physical releases with artwork.

Back in Judy’s Shack self-released mini-album came out in 2005 with the catalog number BED021. It had 7 songs, “Winter Days”, “Burning Cold”, “Breath”, “The Puff, The Drag, The Whiff”, “Silence”, “The Forest” and “What Are You Doing for the Rest of Your Life”.

The songs had been written, produced, mixed, arranged and played by Johan Cederberg and Josefine Jinder.

Johan would be in other projects like Montauk and HNNY, as well as playing solo, while Josefine is more known as Little Jinder. She was also part of the fantastic Your Place or Mine, a band I hope I can interview someday (it is one of my favourite bands of that period).

Sam Carlshamre from Corduroy Utd. and the fantastic Jämna Plågor, who also contributed trombone to a song of Your Place or Mine, played trombone in the song “Burning Cold”. Andreas Wallgren, also known as [brus], wrote and sang the song “Breath”.

The art of the CD is credited to Helga Bärnarp.

This CDR would be repressed 3 years later, in 2008, by the US label Series Two (ST015). Same tracklist. 300 copies. Just different artwork.

The band would also appear on two compilations. On “Series Two Compilation Vol. 23” (ST51) from 2009 the band had “The Puff, The Drag, The Whiff” and on “Series Two Records Christmas Special” (ST89) of the same year they had “Footsteps in the Snow”.

Then they split of course and released more music with different projects I already mentioned. I wonder though where are they now? I’d be curious to know what their thoughts are looking back to those days of Back in Judy’s Shack. And of course, who wouldn’t, I am curious about the band’s name. Was Judy a real person?

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Back in Judy’s Shack – The Puff, The Drag, The Whiff

18
Jan

Thanks so much to Carol Samways for the interview! This interview has taken quite a bit to happen, so very happy to finally publish it. I wrote about the Southampton band Whirlpool Heart many years ago. And finally I get to find out some more details about them!

++ Hi Carol! Thanks so much for being up for this interview! How are you? Are you still involved with music?

Regretfully I have been struggling with my mental health, & ADHD, over recent years, which has prevented me from pursuing my love of music. Prior to that I was getting together with a couple of other musicians, one a guitarist & one a singer, and working with them. On the rare occasion I am well now I am still very much inspired to sing, & want to get together with others to do so.

++ Let’s go back in time. What are your first music memories? Do you remember what was your first instrument? How did you learn to play it? What sort of music did you listen to at home while growing up?

My first music memories are listening to my parents records at home, jumping around to “ Sugar Sugar “, and dancing to their Bill Haley and the Comets album, in particular “ Rock Around the Clock “ & “ Shake Rattle and Roll “ ( happy days ) , the theme tune to “ White Horses “ and other black & white tv programs from my young childhood, such as “ Champion the Wonder Horse “ & “ Casey Jones “ ! , hearing songs on the radio, and the little records I had : ‘ The Owl & The Pussy Cat ‘/ ‘ Run Rabbit Run ‘, ‘ The Ink is Black The Page is White ‘ / ‘ Me & You & a Dog named Boo ‘ ( my favourite ) , & an instrumental interpretation of ‘ Peter and the Wolf ‘ ! . My first instrument was always my voice, as I sang & made up little songs at a very young age, but my first non vocal instrument was the recorder ! Which I learnt at school, at home, and using music books, when I was at First School. Growing up at home I listened to popular & easy listening music of the 60’s & 70’s played on the radio. Radio 2’s Breakfast Show, hosted by Terry Wogan, as the radio was always on in the kitchen in the mornings when I was having breakfast before going to school. I particularly loved “ Penny Lane “, ‘ The Carpenters ‘ ( “ Mr Post Man “ featured strongly from the radio in my childhood, and I remember singing along to it as I left the kitchen on my way to get ready to leave for school ), other ‘ Beatles ‘ tracks , Smokey Robinson, Neil Diamond ( also in my parents record collection ) of which ‘ Forever in Blue Jeans ‘ was a particular favourite of mine, which I always felt joyfully compelled to sing along to 😊 , along with David Dundes’s ‘ Blue Jeans ‘ ( not that I knew the singers name until hearing it on the radio in recent years ), Mary Hopkin ‘ Those were the days ‘ ( which had come out in the year I was born ! 😊 & I have a particular love of ), ‘ The Byrds’ ‘ Hey Mr Tambourine Man ‘, ‘ The Electric Light Orchestra ‘ in particular ‘ Mr Blue Skies ‘ 😊 The Kinks ‘ ( ‘ Waterloo Sunset ‘ / ‘ You Really Got Me Going ‘) Carole King ( I think my parents had the Tapestry album, but if not I certainly bought it myself in my late teens ) , James Taylor, ‘ Steve Harley and the Cockney Rebels ‘, ‘ The Moody Blues ‘ , ‘ Procol Harum ‘, Mott the Hoople ‘ , Squeeze’ , Billy Joel ( in particular ‘“ Just the Way You Are “ which I fell in Love with and “ She’s Always a Women “ ), Joan Armatrading ( swooning over “ Love and Affection “ ), Lynn Anderson ( “ I Beg Your Pardon “ ), ‘ The Doors ‘ ( “ Light My Fire” ), ‘ Elvis Castello & The Attractions’ , ‘. ‘ The Police ‘ , David Cassidy, David Essex, ( & watching ‘ The Partridge Family ‘ ) The Osmonds, The Jacksons and ‘ Abba ‘ ! I also loved ( & still do )the music of ‘ The Monkees ‘ loving to watch their tv shows. My Mum & Dad’s record collection included the ‘ Isley Brothers ‘ ( who’s music I really got into in my late teens, at ‘ Riverside ‘ 😊 ) ‘ Del Shannon ‘ ( one of my Mum’s records from her teenage years, which was one of her and my favourites, which I used to sing along to ) , Bobby Vee , ( featuring another favourite of mine, ‘ Rubber Ball ‘ ), Connie Francis, Paul Anchor, ‘ The Three Degrees ‘, ‘ Jimmy Cliff’ ( who’s music I rediscovered later. in my teens – ‘ I Can See Clearly ‘ helping me through some emotional times ) , ‘ The Detroit Spinners’ , ‘ The Three Degrees ‘ , ‘ Matt Monroe ‘ , ‘ Paul Robeson ‘, ‘ Caruso ‘ , ‘ John Denver ‘ ( who’s music touched me deeply & I loved ), ‘ Glen Campbell ‘ ( who’s songs will always remind me of my Mum, because it was one of his album’s in particular she used to listen to a lot and I loved, & still do ) , Barry Manilow was another favourite of my Mum’s. Also in my parents record collection were Roberta Flack ‘ , ‘ The New Seekers ‘ ( featuring one of my favourite ever songs ‘ Morningtown Ride ‘ ), Nat King Cole, Simon and Garfunkel, Johnny Cash, Dolly Parton, Joan Baez and Bob Dylan ( the later three particular being favourites of my Dad’s ) , Val Doonican, soundtracks of musicals, such as ‘ South Pacific’ & ‘ The King and I ‘ , along with the Top of the Pops albums of each year throughout the ‘70’s, into the ‘80’s with their scantily clad glamour model covers ! , Salsa music, and Christmas albums of Vera Lynn ( which I loved. Always heralded the coming of Christmas as my Mum would have it on while writing her Christmas cards. Filled me with Christmas joy, and I sung along to ) and Carol’s from a couple of Cathedrals.

My Dad was a dedicated watcher of ‘ Top of The Pops ‘ so I grew up watching that as well.

I also enjoyed going to the theatre to see Musicals with my Mum & Dad as a child, and the music from ballets, of which we saw a few. After the records I was given when very young I was given the soundtrack of the film ‘ Oliver ‘ ( songs of which I loved, & again I would sing along to ) , the soundtrack of Disney’s ‘ The Aristo Cats ‘ ( which I loved, singing along to “ Everybody wants to be a Cat ! “ ) , & ‘ Mary Poppins ‘. I also loved the theme tune music for ‘ Little House on the Prairie ‘ and ‘ The Walton’s ‘ !

I also enjoyed the music of ‘ The Amazing Darts ‘ ( which was played at the holiday camp evenings we went to, as well as watching on ‘ Top of the Pops ‘ ) . The music of Elvis Presley was also a big part of my life in the ‘70’s & I loved watching his films when I was a child & in my teens.

I also remember “ I love the sound of breaking glass “ by Nick Lowe, on the radio, and Bill Withers’ “ Lovely Day “ which I love 💗 ,. I’ve loved ‘ , ‘ Blondie ‘ since hearing “ Heart of Glass “ being played through our wall from our neighbour’s eldest daughter ! Debbie Harry was my greatest female idol, later followed by Chrissie Hynde, & Kate Bush. The first record my Dad bought me when I was a teenager was by ‘ Musical Youth ‘( which would not have been my choice ! ) . The first cassette tape I bought ( for the brand new cassette player I bought from selling my dolls ) was “ Grease “ having loved the film when it came out when I was 9.

In my middle school years there was also the Two Tone scene, and my love of the music by ‘ The Selector ‘, ‘ The Body Snatchers ‘ & ‘ The Beat ‘ remained with me for life.

My favourite at family weddings was always “ The Twist “ , and at Middle School discos Madness’ “ Baggy Trousers “, & Abbas “ Dancing Queen ‘“ always got me up dancing.

I also liked music from other decades, the 20’s, 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, & ‘60’s. I loved/love ‘ Someone to Watch over Me’ , ‘ Smoke gets in my eyes’ , ( two songs that have always touched me deeply ) & ‘ At Last ‘ in particular Etta James’ version, what a Voice ! & The Glen Miller Band.

In my first year of Secondary School I bought the obligatory ‘ Rio ‘ tape as dictated by my peers, I never felt comfortable with that & never again bought any music I wasn’t drawn to myself, as I tended away from the more Commercialised music of the ‘80’s.

At 12 I was introduced to the music of my Mum’s teenage years, from attending the musical “ Rock-A-Billy Son of Heaven “ , finding the songs in the sound track prior to the show particularly engaging, & finding a love of Billy Fury in particular.

Then when I was 13 I was totally mesmerised by ‘ The Kids from Fame ‘ ! buying all their albums & going to see them in concert ( I can’t claim this was the first concert I went to as I also have vague recollections of seeing a glam rock children’s band who’s members were in animal costumes ! doing ‘ Tiger Feet ‘ at Southampton Guildhall ! ) . During my Secondary School years I loved ‘ Stay Cats ‘ “ The First Picture of You “ by the Lotus Eaters, songs by Matt Bianco, Depeche Mode, The Cars, Crowded House 💗 , Roxey Music, ‘ The Bangles ‘, ‘Roman Holiday ‘, ‘ Coast to Coast’, ‘ The Bluebells’, ‘ The Style Council ‘, ‘ Dexy’s Midnight Runners’, ‘ OMD ‘, ‘ Fun Boy Three ‘ , ‘ Hall & Oats ‘ , Kirsty McCall, Billy Bragg, ‘ Bronski Beat ‘ ( being totally blown away by “ Small Town Boy “ ), ‘ Sade ‘, ‘ Tracey Chapman ‘ ( won over as soon as I heard “ Fast Car “ ) ‘ Tasman Archer ‘ ( “ Sleeping Satellite “ ), ‘ The House Martin’s ‘, ‘ Yazoo ‘ , ‘ Altered Images ‘ , Cindy Lauper, Lionel Richie, ‘ The Belle Stars ‘ , Godley and Creme’s “ Under your thumb “, ‘ The Pogues ‘ ( who’s music I later loved skipping & swinging around to at various Hammy Nights ), Alison Moyet , ‘ Wings ‘, Paul McCartney, Madonna’s “ Border Line “ album, but not so much her later stuff, & ‘ The Thompson Twins’. I also loved Giorgio Moroda & Phil Oakey’s “ Electric Dreams” 💗( which still touches my heart as profoundly as the first time I heard it ) , ‘ Aha ‘, Michelle Shocked, and ‘ The Beautiful South ‘……….I also got in to Jazz, particularly Sarah Vaughn, Ella Fitzgerald, Nat King Cole, Louie Armstrong, Duke Ellington,and the music of Bill Evans ( introduced to me by my Dad ) . I loved Ray Charle’s ‘ Hit the Road Jack ‘ ( from a young age, hearing it on the radio ) and ‘ What’I Say ‘, ……‘ Martha and the Vandellas ‘ ( “ Jimmy Mack “ ) , ‘ The Velvelettes ‘ ( “ Needle in a Haystack “ ) , Be-Bop, & Swing, and Georgie Fame’s “ Yeah Yeah “, Peggy Lee ( “ Fever “ ) , Louis Jordan’s “ There Ain’t Nobody Here but us chickens “ ! 😁 “ The Girl from Impanema “ , & other Latin American music, Sam Cooke, ‘ The Drifters ‘, Brenda Lee, Connie Francis, Frank Sinatra, Bobby Darrin, Buddy Holly , Dione Warwick, Gladys Knight & The Pips , ‘ , Ben E King, Marvin Gaye, Van Morrison ( “ Brown Eyed Girl “ ), & Don McLean ( “Vincent “ ).

It was Jazz, and the great artists Sarah Vaughan, Ella Fitzgerald, and later Aretha Franklin who really inspired me to be a singer seriously.

I fell in lust with ‘ Scriti Politi ‘ who’s music caught me unawares one morning when I was listening to the radio on my headphones.‘ 💗 From there I moved on to ‘ UB40 ‘ ( my first London gig was to see them at Brixton Academy, despite my Mum’s fears, despite it being several years after the Uprising. It was also my first encounter with Brixton, I loved that the fruit & veg stalls were still open at 9 O’clock at night ! & I was swept away by the beauty and atmosphere on going into the Academy) . By this time I was listening to Ranking Miss P on Radio 1, totally immersed myself in reggae, and obviously Bob Marley, using his songs to audition for the College play whilst at 6 th Form College. At 6th Form College I was introduced to ‘ Everything But The Girl’s ‘ “ Eden “ album, Carmel ‘ Talking Heads ‘ “ And She Was “ , ‘ The Mighty Wah ! ‘ , and was re-introduced to Georgie Fame’s music , from music played by the Upper Sixth students in our art studio. I’ve also always loved Boogie Woogie piano. In 1986 I wanted to experience the Jazz music scene as depicted by the film “ Absolute Beginners “, walking out from the vibrance of that film into a dark, damp, Southampton town centre, on a Friday night, to find a barren emptiness, absolutely nothing was happening at all ! I was then introduced to more great music at 6th Form Discos, from ‘ The Clash ‘ ( “ Rock the Casbah “ ) ‘ The Cure ‘ ( “ Love Cats “💗 which encapsulated the music style that I most enjoyed ), ‘ Lloyd Cole and The Commotions ‘ ( “ Lost Week- End “ ) ‘ Aztec Camera ‘ ( “ Oblivious “ 😊 ) ‘ Echo and The Bunnymen ‘ , ‘ The B52s ( “ Love Shack “ ) ‘ Siouxisie and The Banshees ‘, name a few, so loving the vibrance and energy of the songs/ music bands. I also re-visited my love of 50’s & 60’s music, becoming more aware of motown, and enjoying the music of Nina Simone, Richie Valance ( “ La Bamba “ ) ( who’s life story film left me in tears, as did “ The Buddy Holly Story “, & “ The Glen Miller Story “ ) and back to Jazz with Humphrey Littleton & Helen Shapiro.

Not long after “ Absolute Beginners “ I saw “ Pretty in Pink “ which introduced me to ‘ The Psychedelic Furs ‘ 😊 . From 6th Form College I was introduced to the wonders of Southampton’s alternative night life scene, starting with Riverside, where I loved to dance to Aretha Franklin’s “ Say a Little Prayer “ , Chris Montez’s “ The More I See You “, Mel Torme’s “ Comin’ Home Baby “ , Jackie Wilson, ‘ The Jackson Five’, and Northern Soul. I’d just started going to “ Alternative Night “ at Riverside, favouring the music of DJ Neil, who played Louie Jordan’s “ There Ain’t Nobody Here but us chickens “ 😉, rather than DJ Hammy at the time ! when it was shut down 💔 Then there was “ Stitch Up “ and “ Get Smart “, the local skiffle bands who brought my friend Eileen and I much Joy & excitement 😊, which took me to the early recordings of Elvis at ‘ Sun Records ‘ , ‘ Bobby Darin ‘ , & further back to the Deep Blues of Bessie Smith & Robert Johnson. At this stage I was very much inspired by the works of Duke Ellington, as far as singing was concerned. I also got into Rock-a-Billy music, as my best friend at the time was a Rock-A-Billy, and from there I was also introduced to Psycho-Billy through her sister and her boyfriend. Then “ Fairground Attraction “ took me to my first band audition.

When Riverside was closed down Neil and Hammy moved to ‘ Barbarella’s ‘, the second coolest night club in Southampton ( Riverside was the first ) . When I first went it was for the music of Neil, but when he left I began to Love the music that ‘ Hammy ‘ played, some just because I loved it anyway, such as ‘ ‘ Martha and The Muffins ‘ “ Echo Beach “, ‘ The Doors ‘ ( “ Light My Fire “ ), ‘The Cure ‘, ‘ The Buzzcocks ‘ ( “ Falling in Love With Someone “ ) ,‘ The Inspiral Carpets ‘ , ‘ Susie & the Banshees ‘, and ‘ The Waterboys’ but other’s because I grew in to them from staying, throwing myself around, on the dance floor to the likes of ‘ The Dead Kennedys ‘ and ‘ Husker Du ‘ to avoid feeling awkward standing around the side. I also came to love ‘ Pixies ‘ at this time, as well as ‘ The House of Love ‘, ‘ The Wonder Stuff ’ , ‘ The Levellers ‘, ‘ Blur ‘ , ‘ Carter USM ‘ , ‘ The La’s ‘ , ‘ Ride ‘, ‘ The Happy Mondays’ , ‘ The Sundays’ , ‘ The Darlin Buds ‘, ‘ Kitchens of Distinction ‘ , ‘ The Primitives ‘ , ‘ The The ‘ ( “ Uncertain Smile “ & “ This is The Day “ 💗 ) , ‘ New Model Army ‘ , ‘ New Order ‘ , ‘ The Undertones ‘, ‘ Joy Division ‘ , ‘ The Fall ‘ , ‘ The Stone Roses ‘ , ‘ The Charlatons ‘, ‘ The Violent Femmes ‘ 💗 , ‘ The Jesus and Mary Chain ‘, ‘ The Sundays ‘, ‘ 10,000 Maniacs ‘, tracks by ‘ The Rolling Stones ‘ and David Bowie ( in particular “ Suffragette City “ !

) , more music by “ The Stranglers”, ‘ Teenage Fan Club’ , “ The Mighty Lemon Drops “ , “ The Mission “ , ‘ Dinosaur Junior ‘, REM ‘ ( “ It’s the end of the World ( as we know it “ ) , ‘ Iggy Pop ‘, ‘ The Skatalites ‘, ‘ Toots and the Maytels ‘, the impassioned ‘ Free Nelson Mandela ‘ by Special AKA, being re-introduced to ‘ Echo & The Bunnymen ‘, & the music of ‘ The Kinks ‘. My Star song being The Waterboys’ “ The Whole of the Moon “

……… and the list went on. I was actually at Hammy’s night, at Thursdays ( which replaced ‘ Barberrela’s, and we went to on Wednesdays ! ) when it was announced that Nelson Mandela had been released, and what Celebration we felt that night, dancing to the aforementioned song ! 😊 I was also introduced to further albums by ‘ Everything But the Girl ‘ , ‘ The Marine Girls ‘ & solo ventures by Tracey Thorn & Ben Watt, ‘ Deacon Blue’ & ‘ Prefab Sprout ‘, & ‘ All About Eve ‘ ( Martha’s Harbour ‘ stole my heart ) – The later three through TOTP’s. I got more into the music of Kate Bush ( ‘ Under the Ivy ‘ being my all time favourite Kate Bush song ) , enjoyed the music of ‘ Then Jerico ‘, & ‘ Big Country ‘ & later ‘ The Indigo Girls ‘ 💗Also became more aware of the richness of ‘ World Music ‘ ……… & So I reached the age of 21 ! Grown up, not really, and there was certainly a great array of music I was exposed to & loved over the next 30 plus years ! but I guess I should leave it there for now ! I’m sure there are many that I’ve already missed from the first 21 years !

++ Had you been in other bands before Whirlpool Heart? If so, how did all of these bands sound? Are there any recordings?

I was in a band called “ Rodney and the Plonkers “ ! primarily as the backing singer, but I did get to solo on Fats Domino’s “ Blueberry Hill “. The music was a combination of covers, ‘ The Everly Brothers ‘ , ‘ The Beatles ‘, and ‘ Dire Straits ‘ ( not a band who’s music I enjoyed 😖 ) and their own songs, which I guess would be described as soft rock/ Middle of the road ( not really my cup of tea but I was not part of the decision making or writing in this band. Just did as I was told, or not as the case may be – I wasn’t very good at harmonising & kept singing the lead singers parts ! 🤦🏻‍♀️ much to his annoyance !, so I didn’t last long in that band, but I did get my first experience of gigging, which I loved 😊 ).

I think there were recordings of the band, but I’m not sure if any featured me singing. I was just covering the lead singer’s wife’s maternity leave.

++ Where were you from originally?

Southampton.

++ How was Southampton at the time of Whirlpool Heart? Were there any bands that you liked? Were there any good record stores? Or what about the pubs or venues to go check out up and coming bands?

I was from Southampton.

Back in the day, during the 80’s there was quite a divided cultural scene in Southampton, the main stream culture being that of Casuals ( known as ‘ Kevin’s and Traceys ‘ ) who followed a certain style of dress, sticking to the more commercial music on offer & being closed to other musical styles. Southampton was quite a prejudiced place at the time if you deviated from the norm. I had abuse shouted at me due to the way I dressed a couple of times, and as a girl alone & even in a couple it was not advisable to go to certain pubs ( local pubs & the more mainstream City Centre pubs ) all, usually male, heads would turn towards us as we walked in , and abusive comments would be made. However, for those with more independent thought, there was the underground/alternative scene, which I was so excited to discover in my mid teens. Things did improve, generally, in the ‘90’s , but I relished being part of the minority clique. The minority was made up of lots of different sub cultures, Punks, Goths, Rock-A-Billies, Psycho-Billies, Mods, Indie Kids, Northern Soulers …… a great coming together of like minded people who appreciated music, all united by our draw away from the established ‘ norm ‘ , and I loved it all 😊 . All of societies misfits united, I had found my cultural home. The underground scene in Southampton was low key, but it was vibrant and inclusive, supplemented by the music scene at Portsmouth/Southsea & many trips to London 😊 The places to be were ‘ The Joiners Arms ‘ ( pub and renowned music venue for up & coming bands on the national music circuit, many bands that become massive later in their careers played the Joiners when they were starting out as touring gigging bands )‘ Riverside ‘ ( one of Southampton’s old floating bridges turned into a Night Club ) sadly closed & burnt down before ‘ Whirlpool Heart ‘ though, ‘ Thursdays ‘ ( on a Wednesday ! only ! avoid any other night ! ) which was previously ‘ Barberellas ‘ ( check out ‘ DJ Hammy Club History on Facebook, & DJ Hammy on Cloudmix ) , ‘ Goblets’ ( pub & music venue ), ‘ Bogarts ‘ ( pub where Hammy sometimes DJ’d ), ‘ The Cliff ‘ , ‘ Raffles ‘ ( Night Club ), ‘ Aggie Greys ‘ ( pub/night club ) , ‘ The West Indian Club ‘ , ‘ The Crown & Sceptre ( pub & gigs ), ‘ Southampton Guildhall ‘ ( for bigger bands ), ‘ The Maple Leaf ‘, ‘ Marshall’s ‘ , ‘ The Onslow ‘, ( Blues bands mainly at the time ) , ‘ The Frog and Frigget ‘, ‘ The Canute ‘, ‘ The Albion ‘, ‘The Hobbit ‘ , ‘ The Alexander ‘, all pretty much pubs and music venues back in the day. Southampton Pier had a mini revival, for the Rock-Billy scene, in the 80’s, but this was before ‘ Whirlpool Heart’. There was also ‘ The London Hotel ‘ for a late night hang out. Actually looking back, considering we were the minority we were extensively catered for across the City, don’t think we appreciated that at the time as we always seemed part of such a small scene & felt under provided for in comparison to the mainstream night club nights which were considered ‘ cattle markets ‘ . Those really were the days 😊 considering Southampton applied to be a City of Culture, but it doesn’t have a scene like it used to ( although I’m guessing the young people must have an underground scene & venues of their own, that I’m not aware of ) . Everything seems so commercial and prescribed these days, although ‘ The Joiners ‘ is still standing & a respected music venue after all these years, despite facing many crisis’ over the years. I’m sure there are others that I don’t recollect that Colin & Darren will have contributed to this list.

There was a thriving local music scene at the time of ‘ Whirlpool Heart ‘ with my favourites being ‘ Up Balloon Up ‘( Indie punk ) , & ‘ Space Hopper ‘ ( fronted by our friend Dennis Marfy, who gave it a ‘ Psychedelic Furs ‘ sound ).

‘ Weasels ‘ was the go to second hand record store & there was ‘ HMV ‘ & ‘ Our Price ‘. There was also a little ‘ Virgin Records ‘ store for a while.

++ How did you all meet? How was the recruiting process?

I was introduced to Colin by one of my best friends at the time, Christine Webb, at Barbarella’s, our then favourite night club. When I came to choose to drop out of college, as we were walking home from Barbarella’s one Thursday morning Colin asked me what I was going to do instead. I said I wanted to sing. Colin had been in various bands at that point, and was looking to start up a new band so offered me the opportunity to audition.

If I remember rightly Darren was the boyfriend of a girl Colin worked with at the time, and I first met him when he came along to jam with us. Likewise our second base player, Dan, was the boyfriend of a girl Colin was friends with.

++ How was the creative process for you? Where did you usually practice?

Colin was the main writer. Colin created the music on his guitar & wrote the lyrics initially. We also used a poem from a selection given us by my friend at the time, Jo Lampard, called “ The Lane Green “. Colin encouraged me to contribute with the lyrics, which I came up with listening to his music, “ Flights of Fancy “ being one of mine. Lyrically I just wrote what came in to my head as I listened to Colin’s music, although at times my lyrics would have been influenced by my feelings for Colin, or my appreciation of life & the Seasons ( like the “ November Song “ ) . Colin programmed the drum machine & we did have a drummer, Mark Doncaster, for a short period of time. Darren, & later Dan, came up with the bass lines as we jammed together. I tended to follow Colin’s guitar playing, or the bass line, with the singing.

We mainly practiced in Colin’s room, wherever he was living at the time, although we did use a run down rehearsal room above an old pub for a while when Mark was drumming with us.

++ What’s the story behind the band’s name? There’s a Wild Swans connection, right?

Yes, the ‘ The Wild Swans ‘ was one of Colin’s favourite bands & the name “ Whirlpool Heart “ was his inspiration from their song of the same name. Prior to that we had been called ‘ Insight ‘, again from Colin’s inspiration from his deep regard for ‘ Joy Division ‘, but apparently there was a band of the same name in the USA, so we had to change. Both names were jointly decided on after Colin’s initial suggestions.

++ Who would you say were influences in the sound of the band?

That’s more one for Colin to answer. ‘ Joy Division ‘, ‘ Wild Swans ‘ & ‘ The Chameleons ‘ I guess. Maybe ‘ The House of Love ‘ as well. I was inspired by the jazz greats, Sarah Vaughan, Aretha Franklin, Brenda Lee, Kate Bush, ‘ All About Eve ‘, Tracey Thorn from ‘ Everything But the Girl ‘ , but I can’t claim to sound like any of those singers or have the vocal talent or ability of those that inspired me. I just sang because I liked singing.

++ Also during your time there were some great bands around! Wondering if you had any favourite indiepop bands then? Also any obscure bands that you’d recommend?

My favourites were ‘ Everything But the Girl ‘, ‘ The Cure ‘, ‘ The House of Love ‘, ‘ 10,000 Maniacs ‘ , ‘ Kitchens of Distinction ‘, ‘ The Cranberries ‘, ‘ Cranes ‘, ‘ Buzzcocks ‘, ‘ Even as We Speak ‘ , ‘ Pixies ‘ ,‘ Violent Femmes ‘, ‘ The Go-Betweens ‘, ‘ Aztec Camera’ , ‘ Nirvana ‘, ‘ Catherine Wheel’, ‘ REM ‘ the songs featured on “ This Mortal Coil “, and of course the ‘ The Wild Swans ‘ from Colin.

++ Being in different compilations and all, how come there was never a proper release by your band? There was no labels interested? That’s hard to believe!

There was one record label, a , new at the time, German label called “ Pop Goes On “ ( if I remember rightly ), who were very keen to put a record out of our music, but by the time we went into a recording studio to do the tape we had our new bass player Dan playing with us, and the music was heavier. When they received the tape it was too heavy for them as they were after a more jangly pop sound, and my voice was too low in the mix for their liking. Regretfully I was too stubborn to be willing to record it again, wanting to be true to our sound, but realistically we couldn’t afford to go into a recording studio again, so we lost that opportunity.

We also missed out on being on the same fanzine tape as the “ Manic Street Preachers “ before they became well known.

++ So as there was no proper releases, I’m wondering, how many songs were recorded? Perhaps you did sell some demo tapes?

Only four songs were recorded professionally, but I’ve still got tapes of our own recordings. No, we didn’t sell any demo tapes. Didn’t even think of it, would have just given tapes to those interested.

++ Is it possible to do a demography?

I don’t think so now, after all these years. I certainly couldn’t. I can’t even remember the titles of all the songs we did. I can’t even remember the first song we did. There was “ Too Late Now”, “ The Ghost of S.A.I.F “, “ The Lane Green “, “ Flights of Fancy “, “ Walls Spin Around “, and a handful of other songs, the names of which escape me now. I have got some paperwork at my flat, but I don’t know when I’ll get round to look at it.

++ How do you end up on the Turquoise Trees compilation tape with two songs (“Too Late” & “Walls Spin Around”)? It was released in Bliss Aquamarine, in America!

Was Turquoise Trees one of Steve Genge’s fanzine tapes ? If so, I don’t know how he first came to hear our music, maybe was at one of our gigs.

If not then I expect the fanzine writer that put out Turquoise Trees got the songs from Steve, or corresponded with me & I would have sent them a tape.

++ The other compilation appearance of yours is in the “Seahorses” tape which was released by the Red Roses For Me fanzine. How did this come about? And how was your relationship with fanzines in general? Did you read lots? Was Whirlpool Heart featured on some of them?

We ended up on the “ Seahorses “ tapes due to Steve Genge liking our music, but as I said, I can’t remember how that came about. We did a gig with a Portsmouth band, “ The Windmills “ I think they were called, at The Joiners. Steve may have attended that gig as he lived near Portsmouth, at Porchester. I certainly remember him attending a gig we did at “ The Railway Inn “ in Winchester, and we became friends following his interest in the band.

++ You also participated in the Ambition Records compilation “Bobby Stokes Salutes The Fall Of Manchester” covering Joy Division’s “She’s Lost Control”. Why did you choose to cover this song?

We did two Joy Division covers , “ Insight “ & “ She’s Lost Control “ . We had to do Joy Division as Colin held them in the highest esteem and was profoundly taken with their music. I loved singing those Joy Division songs. The choice of songs would have been Colin’s.

++ Ambition Records was from your hometown, right? Perhaps Mark Pearson from Ambition a regular at your gigs?

Yes, Ambition Records was from our hometown.

No, I’m not sure Mark attended any of our gigs, he hated my voice, finding it monotone, but we became very good friends.

++ I think my favourite song of yours might as well be “Walls Spin Around”, wondering if you could tell me what inspired this song? What’s the story behind it?

That’s one for Colin to answer.

++ If you were to choose your favorite Whirlpool Heart song, which one would that be and why?

I can’t even recall the name of my favourite “ Whirlpool Heart “ song. Of those I can my favourite was “ Flights of Fancy “, probably bias because I wrote the lyrics of my favourite songs.

++ What about gigs? Did you play many?

We played a few gigs.

++ And what were the best gigs you remember? Any anecdotes you can share?

Too long ago to remember our best gigs.

I remember our last ever gig I sang as I was coming down with glandular fever but I thought my voice sounded pretty good on an intake of red wine mixed with dark rum ! Actually thought I sang the best I’d ever sang at a gig that night, but I wrecked my voice & couldn’t talk afterwards. I believe it was at a Birthday celebration for one of Colin’s friend’s.

I also had glandular fever when I sang at the professional recording for “ Pop Goes On “ , which wasn’t ideal.

I remember one of our first gigs, at the “ Joiner’s Arms “ I was so nervous I couldn’t move my legs & one of our friends had to lift me down from the stage at the end.

I preferred doing gigs where there was a stage.

We probably did most of our gigs at the “ Joiner’s “, supporting other bands. We played at a charity All Dayer there, and another fundraising event for one of Colin’s friends.

We also played at a pub in the village of Warsash, where Colin worked at the.

++ And were there any bad ones?

Indeed there were.

At one, I can’t remember if it was our gig at “ The Railway Inn “ in Winchester, I think it was, or the gig at Warsash, the equipment packed up part way through a song, Colin stopped playing but I carried on singing.

We played at an IBM ( where our bass player Dan worked at the time ) event, and the inflatable we were playing under deflated down on to us !

I would say our worst gig was at an outdoor All Dayer in a pub garden in Bevois Valley. I couldn’t hear the instruments on the monitors, so struggled to sing along with them.

There was also a gig when my nerves got the better of me and spoiled my singing.

I remember how difficult it was to sing live without any monitors.

++ When and why did Whirlpool Heart stop making music? Were you involved in any other bands afterwards?

I think we stopped making music in 1995, or 1994.

I think Dan ( our second bass player ) had left the band by then, so Colin & I were back to being a Duo, but as our relationship broke down so did the band, we weren’t really working on the songs any more.

Colin went on to be in another band further down the line, and I believe Darren did too, and I think Darren produced a lot of his own material. I don’t think Dan did. I just went on to working with individual guitarists, as duo’s, but nothing long standing or committed as “ Whirlpool Heart “.

++ Has there been any Whirlpool Heart reunions?

No.

++ Was there any interest from radio? TV?

No.

++ What about the press? Did they give you any attention?

No, only fanzines, we weren’t really that well known.

++ Looking back in retrospective, what would you say was the biggest highlight for the band?

For me it was playing gigs, although I loved working on the music with Colin & the boys as well.

I guess the biggest highlight was being offered the opportunity to put out a record with “ Pop Goes On “.

++ Aside from music, what other hobbies do you have?

I love dancing & gardening when I’m well enough. Also used to read, was into Spiritual development, writing & studying, but since not managing with my mental health I don’t really do anything. I spent most of the earlier years of my son’s life enjoying doing things with him, going out to places, and took up kick boxing with him, but I can’t afford to do those things any more.

++ Never been to Southampton, so I want to know what would you suggest them doing here, like what are the sights one shouldn’t miss? Or the traditional food or drinks that you love that I should try?

I’d say go to the “ Joiner’s Arms “ in St.Mary’s for live music. A venue that hosted many a band that went on to make it big, like “ Oasis “ when they did the national venues in their early days, but still supports local bands.

The Greedy Flea at the Mercantile and Flea, in Bitterne, once a month for Hammy night.

The Art House in the City Centre is also a cool venue to go to, and veggie fare.

For those interested in history I’d recommend the Tudor House Museum, and Southampton Sea City Museum.

In September the “ Music in the City “ event, that hosts a variety of bands at various locations around the town centre for free is a good event, and there are periodically other live events in the City Centre and parks.

For those into art there’s Southampton Art Gallery.

For those into activities there’s the outdoor ski slope at Southampton Sports Centre, for skiing & donutting, or Woodmill for kayaking in their pool or along the River Itchen.

Surrounding areas, a train or bus ride away, are the New Forest, including Exbury Gardens, Beaulieu Palace House, historical Bucklers Hard, river boat rides, riverside walks, forest walks, Lymington Quay and Lido with it’s inflatable obstacle course, open top bus tours, & the New Forest Show, in the Summer.

Historical Portsmouth, with Lord Nelson’s flagship “ The Victory “ and the remains of “ The Mary Rose “.

I’d highly recommend a ferry ride over to the Isle of Wight, where you can visit Queen Victoria’s holiday home “ Osborne House “, see the beautiful thatched village & Chine in Shanklin, and the coloured sands at Alum Bay.

No food & drink traditional to Southampton that I know of. Traditional food of England eaten here though include full English breakfast, fish’n’chips, pie & chips, sausage & mash, ham, egg, & chips, bacon butties, egg roles, Scotch eggs, egg & cress sandwiches, & roast dinners. Best to go to a pub that does home cooked meals, like The Dolphin at St.Denys, The Art House, in town, for vegi/vegan roasts on a Sunday, or go to Colin’s for a traditional roast ! . Traditional puddings include steamed sponges with jam or syrup topping, bread & butter pudding, spotted dick, jam roly poly, rice pudding, semolina pudding, and trifle, blackberry & apple pie ( in blackberry season ), apple pie & custard, and apple or apricot crumble. A lot of our traditional food has virtually died out, so you’d be hard pushed to find some of the foods I’ve referred to as dinning in Southampton has become much more cosmopolitan and chains have taken over a lot of places.

Traditional drink to the area would be Bitter ( by the pint ) or tea ( & biscuits ). I’d also recommend trying out the Real Ales at micro breweries such as the “ Dancing Man “. Other pubs I’d recommend are “ The South Western Arms “ in St.Denys , and “ Overdraft “ drinking establishment, in Shirley, for craft beer & ciders, & DJs certain nights of the week & some ‘ Take Overs “.

++ Anything else you’d like to add?

My favourite Wild Swans song is “ Archangels “, which I absolutely adore.

My son, at the age of 16 ( five years younger than I was ) has now played The Joiners, on the same stage as Ed Sheeran.

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Whirlpool Heart – Walls Spin Around

15
Jan

Never heard of a guitar pop band from Kentucky.

I don’t know much about this U.S. state to be honest. Sure you can joke and say everyone knows KFC. But I am talking about music. Especially the type of music that interests me.

So I was surprised when I found that sometime in the 80s there was a four-piece called The Side that released a 7″ by themselves. An EP of four songs: “Jimmy” and “Burnt Pages” on the A side and “Watching the World” and “The Forgotten” on the B side.

Thanks to Youtube I have listened to just one of the tracks, “Watching the World”, which sounds great.

The uploader mentions that he thinks the band hailed from a town called Bowling Green. It looks like a very nice town. The biggest city, closer to it, is Nashville in Tennessee.

About the band we know a few details thanks to the back of the record sleeve.

It tells us that they were formed by Christian Breeding on bass and backing vocals, Scott Stewart on drums and backing vocals, Tommy Shriver on lead guitar and backing vocals and Robert Allen on guitar and lead vocals.

All of the songs were recorded and mixed at Midsouth Recording Studio in Woodburn, Kentucky. They were engineered by Stephen Webber and were mastered at Nashville Record Productions.

That’s all there is. Anyone can help me with more info about them? Anyone seen a copy of this record at all? Seems rare!

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The Side – Watching the World

08
Jan

December 1991. The Pop Club at the Bull & Gate.

It is Saturday the 14th and the bill has The Prime Movers with Disneyhood supporting. I have never heard any of these bands. 6 days later the club is hosting the Sarah Records Xmas Party and I would love to travel back in time to attend that.

But yes, I know Heavenly and all Sarah bands. I saw Heavenly last year. And it seems I will see them again this year now in New York City.

But what about these other bands playing the week before. Disneyhood? Strange name?

I do find on Soundcloud a bunch of recordings. They are of various quality. They had been uploaded 12 years ago by Steve Brooks who I assume was part of the band. There are no details about any of the songs or about the band. The sound of the band sounds like the early 90s though, so they must be the same band that played at The Pop Club.

Steve Brooks seems to be based in Seaford, UK. I’ve never heard of this place. Seems it is by the sea, in East Sussex. Close to Eastbourne and Newhaven. The Seven Sisters cliffs and Beachy Head are close by too.

Among the songs uploaded, there are five that are numbered, they may have come from the same demo tape? These are “Slight Return”, “Hitch Hiker”, “Amazing”, “Do it Again” and “Bonedive”.

Aside from those tracks, there are two more: “Turnaround” and “Unreal.”

The only other thing I find about them is that the band played at the North Wembley East Lane Flag in London on Friday February 8th of 1991 alongside The Lampards. This according to Sounds.

Who remembers this band? Did any well-known indiepop bands share gigs with them? Did they put out any records? Let me know on the comment box.

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Disneyhood – Turnaround

03
Jan

Thanks so much to Andy Bennette for the interview! I wrote about this great 80s Bedford band some time ago on the blog. Late last year Andy got in touch and was keen to fill in the blanks, tell more details about C-Saim. And I was not going to let that opportunity pass. Now time for you to enjoy this great interview!
Also check out the band’s Facebook page and Instagram account!

++ Hi Andy! Thanks so much for being up for this interview! How are you? Are you still involved with music?

Hi, it’s always a pleasure.   The last couple of years I have been more musically active but before that I had been exercising my creativity in other ways away from the music industry.

++ Tell me a bit more about your current project Bennette! Where can one listen to the music? And how different or similar would you say is is to C-Saim?

Bennette is a recent project to release a few new songs as well as some older material re-recorded.  Ii’s on the usual streaming platforms for anyone who’s interested and I am hoping to get more content on there later in the year.  In terms of style, I suppose it has similarities to C-Saim but as it’s been written years later and recorded with my added experience in studio production the end result is more dynamic and full.

I always felt the recordings we did as C-Saim were never produced or mixed the way we wanted but as we were young and lacking those skills ourselves we relied on other people to handle that side of the process.  In hindsight perhaps we should have been more argumentative and pushed more for what we wanted.

++ Let’s go back in time. What are your first music memories? Do you remember what your first instrument was? How did you learn to play it? What sort of music did you listen to at home while growing up?

Wow there’s a lot there to pick out.  So for myself, my inspiration growing up as a teen was a lot of British rock but I also loved the ‘glam’ stuff that was going on.  I liked things to be theatrical and a bit escapist.  I wasn’t really into the original punk or new wave music but I think that did influence some of the songwriting with C-Saim.  Bryn and Steve both had different tastes to me but that meant the pushing and pulling kept us from drifting too far in one direction.

My first instrument was a cheap, second hand electric guitar.  My brother was the first to start playing and I picked up a few little starters from him and then learned the rest by playing along with my favorite songs at the time.  Later I got hold of a keyboard and used that a bit for writing although we never used any keys or piano in our recordings except for ‘Night Air’ where we messed about with a piano and it seemed to fit.

++ Had you been in other bands before C-Saim? What about the other band members? Are there any songs recorded?

Before C-Saim I spent a white in a ‘school’ rock band that was more a fun thing than anything serious and there was never anything recorded. But it was a good experience.  It’s been many years since I spoke to any of those guys.

++ Where were you from originally?

We were all Bedford boys. All drifted off to different places over the years but I am now back in my home town.

++ How was Bedford at the time of C-Saim? Were there any bands that you liked? Were there any good record stores? Or what about the pubs or venues to go check out up and coming bands?

Hmm my memory isn’t brilliant but yes I can remember a big live music scene back then in Bedford.  We had a few good venues and some great bands – healthy competition.  The record store then was ‘HMV’ and Andy’s Records – now long gone.

So the good places to see bands would have been ‘The Angel’, also long gone.  A club by the name of Esquires started up not long after C-Saim had dissolved and that is still going now with some great new bands and a few from the past and it has a great vibe.

++ Were there any other good bands in your area?

Too many to recall but yes we had a great thing going and a large network of musicians who worked and played together.

++ How was the band put together? How was the recruiting process? You were brothers? related?

How long have you got?   It was really a case of being introduced by friends of friends. Initially we were a 4 piece playing hard rock covers but eventually Bryn, Steve and myself decided we wanted to start writing original material and moving in a different direction. We sacked the bass player and Brun, who was just singing at that point, took up the job of bass player and we became a trio and good friends.

++ Was there any lineup changes?

The three of us worked together without any changes for a few years until the time I left the band to do other things.  Steve and Bryn carried on for a while and added a brass section and keyboards but that version of the band didn’t last very long.

++ What instruments did each of you play in the band?

Steve Brown was a fab drummer and wrote some great lyrics.  He was tutored by John Shearer who was drummer with Steve Hackett after his Genesis days.

Bryn Daniels played bass and shared lead vocals.

Andy Bennette was guitar and shared lead vocals.

++ How was the creative process for you? Where did you usually practice?

There was a well known place in Bedford – the Brickhill Scout Hut – where a lot of local bands would rehearse.  There was no facilities there but it was tucked out of the way and easy to get to – and cheap.  We did have police dropping in now and then about the noise levels.

Most often we would come up with lyrics or music individually and then get together to see what we could do with them.  That meant a lot of diversity in ideas and it kept things fresh and evolving.  I do think quite often, we rushed into finishing songs when they really needed more time and honing but that’s the way it worked. We liked to keep adding new stuff.

++ What’s the story behind the band’s name?

Not a very deep or complicated meaning there. I think someone spotted a sesame snack in a shop once and we simply took the mispronunciation and turned it into C-Saim. So really its a meaningless name – but distinctive.

++ You only released a 7″ record during your time as a band, the double A sided record that had “Night Air” and “Give and Take”. This record was put out by Summit Records. I was wondering who were they and how did you end up working with them? Did you have a good relationship?

Steve’s brother. Bob, lived down in Brighton and knew the studio – I’m pretty sure that’s how it happened.  Our relationship with the label was fairly  short lived but they were great guys – we had a lot of fun down there.

++ The record was recorded at Wilbury Sound Studios in Hove. You worked with Mike Partridge. How was that experience?

It was a great studio in a cool location.  Hove is pretty much part of Brighton and it’s always been a creative kind of place, even today.  Mike was a nice guy – easy to work with and open to trying things.  When we needed a sax player and a female singer he had the contacts and called them in.

++ Tell me a bit about the artwork of the 7″. Who made it? Was it yourself? What did you wanted to express with it?

Pete Griffiths was a friend of the band and just went off and did the sketches for us.  I had written the lyrics for the songs but hadn’t talked to Pete about the meaning behind them. So he simply listened to the songs and put his own interpretation into the artwork.

++ Before doing this record, you already had experience at recording. Your first demo was recorded at Crypt Studios in Stevenage in 1980. Do you remember what songs were on this tape?

Yes the Crypt was litterelly that – in the basement of an old church. Dark, cold and full of atmosphere.  We were young and naive but enthusiastic.  The first demo was ‘Ever Been Had’ and ‘Caribbean Beach’.

++ The 2nd demo was also recorded at the same place. Again, there is no information online about what songs were recorded. Do you know?

‘Turn Tail and Run’ was one of the tracks but I cant remember what else we did.  These were in the early days where we were writing rather heavy rock tunes.

++ You also recorded at Leyland Farm Studios and Rocksnake Studios. What demos were recorded at these locations?

My memory of these is a bit vague.  I remember we did record ‘Johnny’s Stripey Jumper and ‘Night Air’.  The rest – I need to see if Bryn can remember!

++ Which was your preferred place to record then?

Of all these studios I guess Wilbury Sound in Hove was the best. They had plenty of kit there and knew how to use it.  But it was also a great town to hang out in – and there was a beach to chill when we weren’t working.

++ And speaking of demo tapes. I read that there are more songs like “Johny’s Stripey Jumper” and “Last Time”. How many more songs were recorded by the band? How many demos did the band put together?

Along with the studios previously mentioned, we did a few demo tracks in Watford when we were working with another label but I have no recollection of tracks we recorded there.

++ Is it true though that you have lost the original DAT tapes for your recordings? Are they available in any other format though?

Hmm I’m not sure where the idea of DAT tapes came from as they hadn’t been invented when we were doing our recordings.  I have the original master from the Crypt recordings but that wouldn’t survive being put on a tape machine.  The last time I talked to Bryn he told me he had copies on a tape of everything we ever recorded but I very much doubt anything there would be suitable for public consumption!  It will in interesting to go through the recordings though just to see if there are any songs we can re-work.

++ The band appeared on a couple of compilations. One is called “Lend an Ear 1992” from 1982 and released by Vroom Records. I haven’t been able to find myself a copy, but I know you had two songs on it, “Only Yesterday” and “General Custer”. Wondering what you can tell me about this record. Who were behind this label? Were you familiar with the other bands on it? Why did you contribute those two songs? Were they from your demos?

That was an interesting time where we had entered a ‘battle of bands’ thing and the LP was a compilation of tracks from the finalists – we didn’t win by the way.  But we were never happy with the result.  The comp was run by the record label and we always felt the recording of the LP was rushed.

None of the bands had time to record tracks to the standard we would have liked and we had no hand at all in the production or mixing.  I think the whole project is lacking – the sound is thin and the energy of the bands that was in the live performances was completely lost in the studio.  I have digitised the two tracks we recorded but I’m not sure I want to stream them unless I can somehow do some work on them to ‘beef’ them up a little.  Too much of the original excitement in the songs was lost – totally killed by people who missed the point of what we were doing.

Although it was a useful experience for us, the involvement with that record label caused a lot of friction in the band and things got quite nasty until we decided to walk away from it.

++ The other compilation is “Disco Mix Club – July 1983 – Tape 2”. On this tape you had “Night Air”. I read that this tape was exclusive for the Disco Club members. I don’t know who Disco Club were… so wondering if you can tell me about it?

I know absolutely nothing about that one.  That might be another gap in my memory but I’m afraid I can’t tell you anything about it!

++ I read too that there was a live session recorded at MK Radio in Milton Keynes. Is that available anywhere? What songs did you play for that session?

Again, very early days and it would have been our heavier songs. I can’t recall which ones though.

++ Aside from the demos we’ve mentioned, the compilations and the 7″, are there more songs recorded by the band? Unreleased ones?

There’s nothing out there that would be suitable for release. Plenty of demo songs but the masters wouldn’t exist any more and I suspect we would feel the songs needed more work in anycase.  That might still happen. I have spoken to Bryn recently and we talked about maybe getting together to write new material as C-Saim or rework some of the ‘unfinished’ songs from the past. So there may be new recordings released at some point.

++ My favourite song of yours is “Give and Take”, wondering if you could tell me what inspired this song? What’s the story behind it?

Ah ha!  Well now some songs are complete fiction and others might be based on experiences or by watching other people.  The lyrics for that one were my observations of a relationship of someone I knew. I can’t say any more than that!

++ If you were to choose your favorite C-Saim song, which one would that be and why?

That’s a tricky one, there are different songs I could pick for different reasons.  I think ‘Night Air’ is probably my favorite in terms of song writing even though the recorded single, in my view, could have been done better.  But C-Saim was always about the live energy so songs like ‘General Custer’ were a lot of fun to play – it’s just a shame Vroom couldn’t capture that raw energy in the studio.

++ What about gigs? Did you play many?

We were a very busy band.  We were all holding down day jobs but still went out and gigged a few times a week.

++ There’s this long list I found of places you played. It includes places like Luton, Leicester, London, and more. There are towns that I have never heard before though like Rushdan, Olney, Bicester, Old Warden and so on… I wonder how big or small were some of these gigs and how were you booked to play in these places?

These venues would have been everything from small bars to bigger clubs and halls.  Most of the time we would chase these gigs ourselves. Having failed to settle with a manager we felt we could work with, we decided to do it all ourselves where we could. So we became quite good as self promotion.

++ And what were the best gigs in general that you remember? Any anecdotes you can share?

Personally, I loved playing places that didn’t require a lot of travel. One of these was a local college (Now Bedford University).  We had started working with some other local bands and we got a bit cheeky with this gig.  I think we had 2 support bands and when it was our turn we only had to play about 20 minutes – but it did go down well.

We played a well known venue in London called the Moonlight Club.  That was an interesting one. A couple of guys came in and were up front fiddling with our cables and mic stands and basically trying to get us wound up.  We found out later they were only in the club hiding from the police. They were a couple of crack heads and one was packing!  

++ And were there any bad ones?

Probably a lot but one tends to block those from memory!

++ When and why did C-Saim stop making music? Were any of you involved in any other projects afterwards?

Just as we put the single out I was starting to feel the music wasn’t going the way I wanted it to. When I was writing songs I generally had an idea in my head of how it should sound but it never ended up there.  I felt I wanted time out to do other things so I walked away (and felt bad for it).  C-Saim carried on for a while but eventually folded.

We all worked with other musicians on different projects but nothing really came close to the energy and fun that I think we all got from C-Saim.

++ Was there any interest from the radio? TV?

I don’t think we were together long enough to generate much interest there – we probably would have pushed into that if the band had stayed together longer.

++ What about the press? Did they give you any attention?

Quite a bit. We did a few interviews but the interesting thing was, we did a hell of a lot of self promotion which included writing our own articles and reviews under different names. That generated a bit of interest from other places.

++ What about fanzines?

Only a local now but I can’t tell you what that was called now.

++ Looking back in retrospect, what would you say was the biggest highlight for the band?

In retrospect I can honestly say that the whole time together was a highlight, a real blast.  We enjoyed working together. What we really needed was management and record labels that would have got behind us and understood what we were trying to do but that just didn’t happen when we needed it. But I don’t think I could pick out a single event that was better than the whole.

++ Aside from music, what other hobbies do you have?

Me?  I have done freelance photography, a bit of art work but I still write music even if I don’t actually have a plan for it.

++ I’ve never been to Bedford so I’d love to ask a local. What do you  suggest checking out in your town, like what are the sights one shouldn’t miss? Or the traditional food or drinks that you love that I should try?

Bedford no longer has much of a reputation for anything particularly exciting these days.  It really depends on what you are looking for. We are an arty bunch but you got to look hard to find things worth coming for. We do have a good music store here that is owned by a lovely guy called Bruce Murray who was a school friend of Freddie Mercury’   And a good, organic music venue called Esquires where you can catch all kind of bands in an old style rock and roll environment.

++ Anything else you’d like to add?

It’s great to know there is still a bit of interest in the music C-Saim produced all those years ago.  There may be things happening this year and a new version of C-Saim might materialize  – who knows.  Meantime, ‘Give and Take’ and ‘Night Air’ are now available for streaming in the usual places.

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C-Saim – Give and Take

02
Jan

Happy New Year!

Hope this year is a good one for everyone. With lots of great music to discover!

When I saw a flyer of The Cube Club at the Bull & Gate club showing the gigs for the month of November in 1990 I started looking for some of the bands that I had never heard before.

Dan Dares Dog was the first band I was able to find some music of theirs. But they were too punkish for my taste. The next band I found music was The Waiting Sound, and it was a very good shoegaze track!

On this flyer it shows The Waiting Sound supported Life With Patrick and The Cherry Blades on November 13 of 1990. But did you know they actually released a record?

I didn’t!

It came out in 1990 on a label called Energy-Vent (EV001). Was this their own label? It probably was. It is the only release listed for this label on Discogs.

The record included just two songs, “Give Her Tomorrow” on the A side and “Astounding” on the B side.

We know that the band was formed by Wayne Kennedy on vocals, Chris Conklin on guitar and backing vocals, Dean Lewis on guitar, Karl Mault on bass and Pete Martin on drums, backing vocals and sitar.

The engineer for the record was Gavin Bearsby-Lewis while the songs were produced by the band and Adrian Borland of The Sound. Wow, really cool!

Looking at what the band members had done after or before I find out that Chris Conklin was on 8 Storey Window, Axiom and Radiation. There is a Pete Martin that is a well known house/trance music producer, but I am not sure if it is the same Pete Martin.

Other than that release I know there was a demo which I believe was called “Where’s Sharon Tate”.

On Youtube I find that Wayne Kennedy had uploaded some songs, a year ago. He is going solo these days and has recorded 5 songs.

The last thing I find is an issue of January 26, 1991 of Music Week. On it there is a mention of the band where it confirms that the label was their own. They compare Wayne’s vocals to Julian Cope and the sound of the band to Ride and My Bloody Valentine.

And that’s all my friends. Now, who can let me listen to their demo tape? Very curious!

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The Waiting Sound – Give Her Tomorrow

11
Dec

In 2021 there was a retrospective album by The Telephone Boxes on Detour Records (DRLP088) that I missed. I feel bad about it. My record buying habits have decreased considerably since becoming a dad.

It is hard to keep up. But I think this record is one I would definitely want to have. I should keep my eyes peeled. Maybe I’ll be lucky sometimes.

The first time I heard about this band was thanks to an interview I did with Pete Brickley of the wonderful band The Wallflowers. Before being in The Wallflowers he had been in The Telephone Boxes. This is what he told me:

I left The Telephone Boxes, shortly after our support slot on the first Smiths tour to start a solo career but was persuaded by Warner Chapell to take a band name (from page 1 issue 1 of Spiderman).

Telephone Boxes were utterly amazing (the Smiths invited us on their first tour and paid our expenses and a modest wage)we sounded like a cross between The Fall & an ice cream van. We recorded four demos for various record companies,every Smiths gig, and lots of home tapes. Maybe we can release some of it one day.

The Telephone Boxes was formed in 1982 by Pete Brickley (vocals, guitar), Charlie Allen (bass, backing vocals), Adam Wood (guitar, backing vocals) and Patrick Hunt (drums, and he would continue working with Pete on The Wallflowers). The band would be active until 1985. Also worth noting that on the song “Theme from Interpol” the drummer was Mark “Sparky” Davies.

Previously Patrick had been in Aztec Camera. Pete Brickley was on The Mystery Girls and The Xtensions. Adam Wood had also been in The Mystery Girls as well as in Frankenstein’s Baby, The Company and The Famous Men.

The record that Detour released in 2021 included a plethora of songs. It was an LP and CD combo. The songs on the LP are repeated on the CD, but the compact disc includes 12 more songs. These are: “Lazy Time”, “Language of the Land”, “Little White Lies”, “You’re the One”, “I Don’t Like to Repeat Myself (Live)”, “Thank You”, “Theme from Interpol”, “Please Yourself”, “Hallelujah I Was Born”, “One Day”, “Now That We’re Friends”, “A Twist of Fate”, “Love Was Here (Live)”, “STYLE”, “Affection”, “I Read a Book”, “Good Fortune”, “Boomerang Jack”, “Camouflage”, “A Great Big River”, “Down and Out”, “Everybody’s Fool”, “Broken Up”, “Living in Trees”, “Deadbeat (Live)” and “Relatively Speaking”. The songs were written sometimes by Pete and others by Adam.

This record was very limited sadly. 150 copies in black vinyl and 100 on red. The album includes their demos as well as live tracks from their Smiths tour.

On my blog I find another mention about the Telephone Boxes. It is on the post about the band Ala Pana Fuzo. There I wrote: “There’s an interesting bio on last.fm written by Ian Miller himself. Among the many interesting facts written, he mentions that they often played on the same bill with Peter Brickley, from the Telephone Boxes and the more known Wallflowers as he was also from Slough. They were also very close to signing to a major label but it didn’t happen.”

A post on The Guardian tells us a little bit more about Peter and The Telephone Boxes: “The Wallflowers were the creation of Peter Brickley (who always styled himself Peter d Brickley). He’d come to the attention of Marr via his previous band, the Telephone Boxes, who had supported the Smiths. It’s possible he didn’t have the Stakhanovite work ethic required to make a success of a music career: his RIckenbacker guitar was backed with a large sticker with the word “acid” written in block capitals; he played more often with Slough’s jokey country band the Company than he did with his own group.”

I start to wonder why did I miss this. I haven’t heard all the songs on the record. Just a few and they are fantastic. I’m pissed. Only now, 2 years after the fact I am seeing my mistake. And happily all the songs are on Soundcloud. Sure, not the same as playing the real thing, but this is nice too!

What else is there to say about them? Well yes, they played at many places including, at the Nelson Mandela Hall  and London King’s College (both with Hurrah! and Felt), at the Leicester De Montfort Hall, the Warwick University Arts Centre and Reading University (with The Smiths), at Dingwalls (with The Smiths and The Daintees), at the Lyceum in the Strand (with The Smiths, Billy Bragg and The Redskins), at Libertys (with Death Pop), at the ICA (with The Room and The Red Guitars), at the Windsor Arts Centre (with The Smashing and Death Pop), Mothers Wardrobe in Slough, Studio One and at The Rock Garden among others.

Lastly on Youtube there are two videos, titled “The Last Twist Part #1” and “The Last Twist Part #2“. Check them out!

I lost touch with Pete Brickley since I interviewed him ages ago. So yeah, would love to reconnect, maybe find out more about this wonderful band. Also hoping for a reissue someday! Anyone remember them?

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The Telephone Boxes – Language of the Land

07
Dec

Just a heads up that the last day to order records from Cloudberry will be on Sunday. After that I won’t be able to mail any orders until mid January.

I’ll continue blogging during this time though, I will have the computer with me.

Also keep an eye for an early release early next year by the label, our first 10″! By a beloved Swedish band! Very exciting!

I’m going back in time. Down memory lane as they say. Remember NYC Popfest 2007. That was my first Popfest. Seems like a long time. But I have vivid memories. I can still recall the Bunnygrunt gig in Coney Island. Or chatting with Duglas before the BMX Bandits played. Good times.

There are gigs I dont remember. I am sure I saw Affair D’Coeur but I can’t recall the gig. I remember their name very well though, and now and then it crosses my mind. I should have written about them before. I know I want to remember. Was it a full-fledged band? For some reason I think it was a duo. It is hazy.

They were from NYC. I think that’s right. And I remember they played at The Delancey. That night when I first saw The Baskervilles who at the time were among my favourite bands. I was impressed. The Secret History played that night too. I didn’t know Mike Grace yet. I was impressed by his band and giddy to see ex-My Favourite people on stage.

One detail I remember clearly about Affair D’Coeur was the photo/avatar they had on Myspace. A cartoon pigeon. That doesn’t show up anymore. There is still a Myspace but of course that doesn’t work.

There should be some songs in there. At least their names. “Don’t Tell Me”, “Heart on Demand” and “Oh No December” appear to me. Can you find anymore? They don’t play for sure. Click on music and you get a broken page.

A brief bio I find says they were from Brooklyn. That they recorded their tracks either on or using a Tascam 414 MK II. That they were a bedroom pop band. A lo-fi indiepop band.

Discogs only lists a compilation appearance. It is on CDR I have never heard about, “Loose Sips Sink Ships” released by Indieskys Records (ISY 001). Not sure what year it was. Four songs were included: “Long Drive AKA To My Friends”, “Do You Wanna Go With Me?”, “Heart on Demand” and “Port of Call”. I’m not familiar with the other bands on it.

Other than this I know the band played a gig on March 24 of 2007, before the Popfest. It was at 29 Wythe St. in Williamsburg along The Manhattan Love Suicides, Titus Andronicus, Fellows and The Pains of Being Pure at Heart. Just two months before the Popfest.

Perhaps the best find is that there was a video made for the song “What I Need“. Other videos on this account has songs by a band called MiamiBeachNY… maybe one of the members was involved in this band.

I can’t find names. I can’t find other songs. But clearly they made an impression on me. I remember them and have been wondering what happened to this band. It’s been about 15 years since I heard them. It’s been fun to at least listen to one of their tracks again.

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Affair D’Coeur – What I Need

04
Dec

Today we travel to Brisbane, Australia. Home of The Go-Betweens. But also many other good bands. Here is one I didn’t know about, that I just discovered, Modern Poets.

In 1989 they were making their debut with the release of a 7″ on Big Noise Records (M.P-1230NIT) which probably was their own label. This record had two songs, “Understanding Mary” on the A side and “Redsun” on the B side. It was recorded at Vibrafeel Studios in their hometown and was co-produced by the band and Michael Borkowski.

In 1991 the band would release a cassette album titled “Politics, Poetry and…”. It was put out by Big Noise Records (MP 223740) and was again recorded at Vibrafeel Studios and mastered by Jim Baker at Willowtree Studios.

The album had the following songs, “She Says”, “Ethic of Love”, “Rock Strength”, “Crushed”, “Understanding Mary” and “Driving” on the A side and “Big Slide”, “Planet Go to Rest”, “Fall from Grace”, “Forest Fire”, “Everything is Fine”, “Epiphany” and “This Burning Town” on the flipside.

We learn too that the band was formed by Jonathon Sargeant on vocals, Ben Thomson on bass, Timothy Hills on strings and Philip Neil on drums. Timothy was the one who wrote the music.

Other than these two releases we know that their song “Red Sun” appeared on “Triple M FM 104 Homegrown” LP compilation released by Wheatley Records (TWOHG 004) in 1990.

Then I find a Facebook page for the band. Here I learn that the band started in 1983.

I find there a video of the band playing the song “Feel the Light“. On that same account by Timothy Hills, there are more videos of them, for example the band practicing at Oxley Hall in the Gap in 1985. Recording at Star Sound after Winning the Triple MM Homegrown in 1988. Or live on Channel Seven on a Saturday morning. And what about a fun short video after an interview?

There’s a video for “Everything is Fine” too.

Then I find that the band reunited for a gig on October 4th, 2014.

And lastly on Yotube I find the band’s song “Fear of the Fall” being played live at the Festival Hall in Brisbane in 1985. There is no live footage though. But can check the song.

Another little detail I find is that these days Tim, Jonathon and Phil  make music with a project called Dolby System.

Good stuff, right?

What do you all remember about the Modern Poets? Did they play live much? Did they release any other records?

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Modern Poets – Understanding Mary

27
Nov

Have you heard of a Bristol 80s band called Hope Springs?

I didn’t know about them. Quite surprised. They had a good sound, and quality songs.

9 of their songs were published as a digital album by Bristol Archive Records in 2020. These are available on different streaming platforms. I found Youtube the best to listen to them.

The songs are “Nat Kat”, “Perfect Day”, “Take”, “Higher than Love”, “Song & Dance”, “The Love Mine”, “Tears Disappear”, “Wild Weird Climes” and “Confetti”.

The songs seem to date from 1989 and we know that the band was formed by Andrew Garrett on vocals, Pat Lewington on guitar and backing vocals, David Crossland on bass, Cindy Baldwin on keyboards and backing vocals and Dave Jones on drums.

I search a little bit and find a Facebook page for them that was set up in 2017.

There I find that the band came from the ashes of another band called Under the Orange. How did that band sound like? Which members were on that band? It seems it was the same band with the aaddition of Pat Lewington.

There are two scans of reviews they got. Both are from a magazine called Rhythm, on the April 1989 edition they praise the band a lot and then on March 1990 edition there is a mention that Hope Springs was selected as the best demo band for that month.

We also know that the band played the usual venues in Bristol including The Fleece, The Bridge and The Tropic. In London they played at the Rock Garden and the Mean Fiddler.

In total the band recorded 3 demo sessions. Cindy left after the second one and the band split after the third.

Anyone know anything else about them?

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Hope Springs – Wild Weird Climes