26
Sep

Thanks so much to Donald Larson for the interview! I had written about the superb New England band Flower Gang in the blog some time ago, and I was surprised when Don got in touch. Flower Gang was part of that scene that included legendary bands like Small Factory or Honeybunch and released two records that I highly suggest tracking down if you haven’t already.

Now join me in discovering more details about them!

++ Hi Don! Thanks so much for being up for this interview! How are you? Are you still involved with music?

Hello! The last gig I played was the Flower Gang reunion show in 2012. I am currently retired from the music business but I still play my banjo at home regularly. My love of music and records has never faded and I am an obsessed 45s collector. I spend much of my free time digging for rare rockabilly, soul, surf, garage, girl group and bubblegum 45s at flea markets, yard sales, junk shops, estate sales, etc.

++ Let’s go back in time. What are your first music memories? Do you remember what your first instrument was? How did you learn to play it? What sort of music did you listen to at home while growing up?

I recall the first record I ever bought was a Queen “We Are The Champions/We Will Rock You” 45 when I was 6 or 7. I also have a vivid memory of going into a record store and being awestruck by the display for all four of the recently released Kiss solo albums a few years later. My first instrument was an inexpensive, no name acoustic guitar that I received as a birthday present when I turned 14. I took guitar lessons on and off throughout my teens with a handful of local guitar teachers. I gleaned valuable things from each of them that all came in handy when I started wrtiting songs and playing with others. My parents were not big music fans but they were very supportive of my musical interests.

++ Had you been in other bands before Flower Gang? What about the other band members? Are there any songs recorded?

My first proper band was Laverne. We formed when I was 18 in 1988. We were a trio with me on guitar and vocals, Alec K. Redfearn on bass and Art Tedeschi on drums. We played a handful of shows but did not do any recording. My next band was called Wavering Shapes, which also featured Alec on bass, Rick Ross on drums and Jamie Brolin on vocals (Bill Reed replaced Jamie on vocals and second guitar towards the end of our tenure, Art Tedeschi returned to his rightful throne on the drums and future Flower Gang drummer Matt McClaren joined us on additional percussion). We recorded a 4 song demo on a friend’s 4 track cassette recorder but I am unaware of any surviving copies. We played frequently at AS220 in Providence. Concurrent with Wavering Shapes, Alec and I started another band with Jen Dollard (guitar and vocals) and Phoebe Summersquash on drums (pre-Small Factory) called The Big Wazoo. We played one show in Providence and broke up. Matt and Jack had a pre-FG primitive Misfits/Horror garage combo called Mole People.

++ How was your Mansfield/Plainville at the time of Flower Gang? Were there any bands that you liked? Were there any good record stores? Or what about the pubs or venues to go check out up and coming bands?

Mansfield and Plainville are small, adjacent towns about 15 miles north of Providence, RI. There weren’t any other local bands in our immediate area that played even remotely similar music (mostly metal bands doing Anthrax and Metallica covers) with the exception of nearby Attleboro punkers Neutral Nation. They were a great band who showed me it was possible to be from the uncool burbs but still play original, left of the dial music. There was a good record store just one town away in Foxboro called Good Vibrations. They were a Mass based chain that had 8 or 9 stores and were the only local resource for punk, post punk and indie records.

++ How was the band put together? How was the recruiting process?

Wavering Shapes broke up when Alec K. Redfearn traded his bass for an accordian and began his lifelong journey as a critically lauded composer and band leader (Space Heater, Amoebic Ensemble, Alec K Redfearn and the Eyesores, D.U.M.E, SWRM, etc). I had already played with Matt in Wavering Shapes so we snagged Matt’s buddy Jack Hanlon as our bassist and Flower Gang was born!

++ Was there any lineup changes?

We added Erin Sharicz on vocals before recording our double 7″ for spinART but otherwise our lineup was stable during our existence.

++ What instruments did each of you play in the band?

I played guitar and sang, Jack played bass and sang and Matt played drums.

++ How was the creative process for you? Where did you usually practice?

We practiced in the basement of my parent’s house in Plainville, Mass. I was 20 when we started and Matt and Jack were still in their teens.  I usually worked up some ideas on guitar in my bedroom and then we would flesh them out and see where they took us during band practice. It was a collaborative process. We were quite dedicated and rehearsed 3 or 4 times a week.

++ What’s the story behind the band’s name?

As I mentioned earlier, the local scene in Plainville/Mansfield was mostly metal cover bands. Our initial plan for Flower Gang was to play impromptu acoustic sets in the parking lots of local American Legion/VFW hall metal shows under the name “Hairy Diarrhea” (an idea that sadly never came to fruition). When we had an opportunity to play a local “battle of the bands” event, we chose the wimpiest, least metal sounding name we could muster and it stuck. We embraced our outsider status as the only indie/punk rock band in Plainville and did our best to antagonize the locals.

++ Your first release was the “Guys with Glasses” 7″ that was released by Boy Crazee Records. My first question has to do with this label. Was it yourselves running it? Or who was behind it?

Boy Crazee was our label and “GWG” was our only release. We recorded that record before we had ever played a show. It was the first time any of us had been in an actual recording studio and it was a hurried, bewlidering experience. I’m just glad some of our energy and youthful enthusiasm came through on the recordings. Matt was going to school at Emerson College in Boston at the time. He ditched class one day, went to the Boston Public Library and found an Olympia, Washington phone book. He found Calvin Johnson’s phone number, called him and asked if K would distribute our record. Calvin obliged and also helped us get distribution in the Netherlands via Semaphore (which explains why you can find numerous copies of that record for sale on Discogs from the Netherlands).

++ This release came with sleeves in different colors, orange, red, blue, green and yellow. Why was that? And am I missing any other colors?

No, you have not missed any colors! I think that the lady at the local print shop gave us that five-different-colors option and we thought it was a fun idea.

++ Another thing that caught my attention is that you are listed as Dan, not Don or Donald. How come?

I have copies of the yellow, green and blue covers and I am listed as Don. I’m unsure what color cover you have but perhaps it was a typo on that particular color cover.

++ This is a great record and has great songs. One song that I was curious about was “Matt’s Dilemma”. Is it about the band’s drummer Matthew Edward McLaren?

Yes, that was one of our earliest songs and was written by Jack as an homage to our drummer complaining about feeling parched.

++ Later you would sign with spinART Records in New York. How did that happen? Did you send them demos? They came to see you at a gig? And how was the relationship with this label?

The spinART guys saw us at the Providence Indie Rock Explosion in 1992 and liked what they heard. It was a three day indie pop festival organized by Dave Auchenbach from Small Factory and local promoter Ty Jesso. I can’t recall everyone who played but I know that Small Factory, Honeybunch, Magnetic Fields, Velocity Girl, hypnolovewheel, Love Child, Belly (their first show), Tsunami, Versus, The Swirlies, Dambuilders, Fudge and Lois Maffeo all performed. Flower Gang broke up shortly after our spinART record was released so our relationship with them was brief but amicable.

++ With them you released a double 7″ record, “Junkdrawer”. Of course I am curious about the format, doing a double 7″ is not common, probably a 10″ or a 12″ would be a more normal approach.

I was a huge fan of the Fastbacks and loved their “The Answer Is You” double 7″ release on Sub Pop. In addition to tipping our hat to the Fastbacks, we all thought it was a unique format that might help garner some attention.

++ And yeah, who is on the cover photo of this record?

That is my nephew Matty on the cover. The gatefold inner is a painting by Matt McClaren and the photo on the back is Jack’s father.

++ On this record there are vocals by Erin Elizabeth Sharicz. Was wondering if she was in another band or how did she end up collaborating with the band?

Erin was a fan and friend of the band. Flower Gang was her first and (I believe) only band. I was obsessed with Talulah Gosh and wanted to have female vocals on some of the songs. She sang on a handful of songs but sadly only “Shiny Grease” and “McNutt” were recorded.

++ You mentioned that you appeared on the “AS220 1992 Compilation”. I see that this one is online these days, but can you tell me more about this release?

AS220 was (and still is) a non-juried performance space in Providence. It was essentially a compilation of bands who regularly performed at AS220. It was a cassette-only release recorded by Joe Auger at AS220 and holds up as a unique document of Providence area musicians from that time and particular place. I first went to AS220 in the spring of 1988 on a whim and serendipitously happened upon the first ever Honeybunch performance opening for Beat Happening on the Jamboree tour. It was an impactful experience and I soon became an AS220 regular most weekends.

++ My favourite song of yours is “Metzger’s Farm”, wondering if you could tell me what inspired this song? What’s the story behind it?

That song was inspired by walking around my old baseball field at age 20 and remembering how it feft playing little league baseball as a kid. The baseball field was across the street from the farm that provided the song title.

++ If you were to choose your favorite Flower Gang song, which one would that be and why?

Of the songs we recorded and released, “Metzger’s Farm” is probably my favorite.  It’s super catchy and has that spastic-but-still-locked-in-a-groove energy of the early Minutemen recordings (my biggest inspiration). We were pretty prolific. I would guess that our recorded output was only about 20% of what we wrote and performed and I wish we had gotten more of our songs on tape.

++ What about gigs? Did you play many?

We played every chance we got. In addition to AS220, Club Babyhead (formerly the Rocket) in Providence was one of the places we played often. We opened for Ween, Uncle Tupelo, Yo La Tengo, King Missle, Velvet Crush, Jad Fair, Sleepyhead and even a freakin’ King Diamond cover band at Club Babyhead. The band we shared the most gigs with was small factory. Our sounds weren’t that similar but we started around the same time and we turned out to be a pretty good fit musically and personally. We also really enjoyed renting out American Legion halls and playing truly local shows in Plainville and Mansfield.

++ And what were the best gigs in general that you remember? Any anecdotes you can share?

We played a poorly attended but fun Sunday matinee show opening for Grant Hart’s Nova Mob at Club Babyead. We hung out with him after the show and when he found out the club stiffed us on our fee, he paid us out of his pocket. We were all huge Husker Du fans and having that kind of interaction with one of our heroes was memorable. I also vaguely recall a wild, drunken, ramshackle show at Wheaton College in nearby Norton, MA with small factory and Love Child that ended with our booze confiscated by campus police and the student from the college radio station who organized the show having her booking-on-campus-shows privileges rescinded.

++ And were there any bad ones?

We were scheduled to play with small factory and Heavenly on their first US tour at Club Babyhead in Providence. I was a huge Talulah Gosh fan and was psyched to be on the bill. However, Gang of Four had a night off from the Lollapalooza tour (or some similar shit) and wanted to play a club date so they were added to the bill and we were kicked to the curb. I still attended the show and Heavenly did not disappoint but it was a major bummer to get bumped from that bill.

++ When and why did Flower Gang stop making music? Were you involved in any other bands afterwards?

We started sometime in the fall of 1990 and called it quits in the late spring of 1993. After we broke up I spent a few years learning to play the 5 string banjo in the Old Timey Clawhammer style. After focusing on writing and playing original music for years it was refreshing to learn how to play roots music in a traditional style. I played banjo with StringBuilder from Providence for a few years in the late 90s/early 2000s. We released two 7″s and a CD on a local label (Handsome Records) and did one memorable two week tour. A few years later, Joel from StringBuilder formed a new project called Death Vessel and I played banjo, uke and guitar on his Sub Pop debut “Nothing Is Precious Enough For Us” and joined them for three U.S. tours supporting that record. Jack Hanlon found much greater success than Flower Gang ever attained with his next band Amazing Royal Crowns. Matt teamed up with our old friend and Wavering Shapes bandmate Alec K. Redfearn in the Eyesores (who I also played banjo with sporadically over the years). Both Jack and Matt blossomed into amazing musicians and are still actively playing.

++ There was a reunion gig in 2012 supporting Small Factory and Honeybunch! What a lineup. How was that gig? And what prompted you to reunite?

There was a brief resurgence of interest in indie pop music from the early 90s around that time. I think Slumberland Records did a series of well received reunion shows with some of the bands on their label and that planted the seed. Dave from Small Factory asked us if we wanted to do a reunion show with them and Honeybunch and we agreed. A Small Factory/Honeybunch/Flower Gang bill was something straight out of Providence circa 1991 and it was a fantastic, very well attended night.

++ Was there any interest from the radio? You did a session at WFMU, right? How was that?

We did live-on-the-air sessions at WSMU (Southeastern Massachusetts University)) and WRIU (University of RI) that were lots of fun. We also recorded (not on the air but strictly playing live in one take) at the WERS studio (Emerson College) where Matt was a student. I’m unsure if any copies of those Emerson recordings still exist but they were the best example of what we sounded like live back then.

++ What about the press? Did they give you any attention?

The local press was very kind to us despite our relative youth and often snarky demeanor. Mike Caito was the local music writer for the Providence weekly arts rag The NewPaper and he gave us a fair share of favorable ink in his columns. We played an outdoor block party in 1993 organized by Providence subversive bookstore Newspeak that was reviewed by Creem magazine (the writer seemed smitten by our “Association style power pop”). I think we got reviewed by a few fanzines but I can’t remember any details.

++ Looking back in retrospect, what would you say was the biggest highlight for the band?

Just being three young, awkward guys with glasses from the uncool burbs who formed a band that put out a few 7″ records and made a minor impact in Providence was quite a thrill.

++ Aside from music, what other hobbies do you have?

As I mentioned at the start of the interview, I am an avid 45s collector. I don’t consider that a hobby – it’s more like a disease for which I never hope to find a cure. When I’m not obsessively digging through boxes of unsleeved 45s in some rando’s garage or basement, I can be found reading, hiking or spending time at the beach with my wife and partner in crime Anya.

++ Anything else you’d like to add?

Thank you for posing such thoughtful questions and taking an interest in Flower Gang. It was fun remembering what it was like to be young and playing in an indie rock band in a pre-Nirvana, pre-internet world.

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Listen
Flower Gang – Metzger’s Farm